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Post by robreddy on Oct 16, 2008 9:18:26 GMT -5
some know - I've sworn off TV - pretty much only watch Sports Center and MNF
I hadley read the news paper any more.
Have not followed the presidential issues at all - well except for the exceptional coverage here on teh CTC Forum - thanks all!!
I was actually NOT going to vote at all - but that is wrong - so i have to make a choice.
Here is what I'd like to hear from you all -
If you are a supporter of Obama - then tell me three positive things about McCain
If you are a McCain supporter - then tell me three good things about Obama
And not some crap like Obama's wife is hot or McCain has access to lots of Budwieser
Honestly - if you think about it - the country appears to be nearly evenly split - some one is going to win and about 1/2 of us will have backed the loser - but ultimately (and possibly more importantly) we are all Americans and need to be behind OUR President to a certain degree - so maybe this is a good exercise.
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Post by Aussie Rob on Oct 16, 2008 11:30:01 GMT -5
Easy.
1) McCain served his country honorably in the navy
2) McCain has spent a long time in the senate and accomplished some good things there
3) I think he genuinely cares about bettering America
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Post by suziharman on Oct 16, 2008 17:18:17 GMT -5
Obama has a great education behind him & is very well spoken
He seems to be a dedicated family man
He fights hard for the middle class/underdog/average guy
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Post by watchman on Oct 17, 2008 9:17:20 GMT -5
Obama 1. great speaking ability 2. great debater 3. seems to be able to make the ladies (and Matt) swoon  mike |
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Post by Charlie on Oct 19, 2008 10:06:34 GMT -5
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Post by MarkD on Oct 19, 2008 16:48:02 GMT -5
I'm a supporter of both. So, I'll offer 3 positive things that they both share (in my opinion)...
1. They are both leaders - in different ways - but definately leaders... unlike the current Pres (although I would like to go out drinkin' with W)
2. If elected - I believe each would do something significantly good.
3. Historically, they both trend toward the moderate - which is why they got their respective parties nomination (yes, even Obama - that's the main reason he won over Clinton in the primary).
I'll probably either vote Obama or 3rd party this year - two reasons...
1. No one has offered more than 2 beers and 12 wings (Aussie's initial bid).
2. Sarah Palin is an embarrasment to her party and her State.
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Post by MattCollister on Oct 19, 2008 19:13:43 GMT -5
Me & Colin Powell, apparently.
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Post by watchman on Oct 19, 2008 21:22:08 GMT -5
Me & Colin Powell, apparently. Colin Powel is not even close to being made to swoon here is a quote he just made "I really have been going back and forth between somebody I have the highest respect and regard for, John McCain, and somebody I was getting to know, Barack Obama." a long way from swooning Mccain still has the far greater support of the military and former military ""This doesn’t come as a surprise," McCain said. "But I'm also very pleased to have the endorsement of four former secretaries of state ... and I'm proud to have the endorsement of well over 200 retired generals and admirals. I respect and continue to respect and admire Secretary Powell" mike |
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Post by MattCollister on Oct 20, 2008 7:37:52 GMT -5
Easy, man. Just continuing the joke you started.
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Post by watchman on Oct 20, 2008 10:08:13 GMT -5
Easy, man. Just continuing the joke you started. I know you are even in joking around there is always a measure of truth. I am not mad at you or have an attitude toward you it's cool one thing I do not like about e-mail and blogs there is no voice inflection or tone of voice. I think that is where many of the arguments can get out of hand. Because of that I never talk about anything serious with e-mail. On this site I try to be very careful how I phrase things to try and prevent misunderstandings mike |
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Post by Charlie on Oct 20, 2008 10:42:33 GMT -5
Matt is good at maintaining a good deadpan in person.
I usually giggle at my own jokes. But I never write LOL or any nonsense like that.
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Post by Jack Carney on Oct 20, 2008 12:55:09 GMT -5
I believe Colin Powells endorsement is based to a great degree on race. He would be vilified if he went any other way. I think he would have committed earlier if he really believed in Obama. He is jumping on the bandwagon now that it looks like he will win.
Mark do you really believe Obama is moderate? Based on what? The Democrats are hard left and when Nancy Pelosi, Harry Ried, and the rest of the liberals are in charge with no check or balance there will not be anything close to moderate thinking. It will be unchecked liberalism which scares me to death. Hold onto your pocketbook.
I think Sarah Palin is a good example of the liberal left hypocrisy in this country. She is someone who made it and is in charge of a state government and has many other accomplishments but is made to look stupid by the media. Colin Powell is a good example also. He was an Uncle Tom when he was helping build the case for war but now he is considered courageous. The left in the US along with the media only support women and minorities if they march to the beat of their drummer. What a crock.
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Post by JenCollister on Oct 20, 2008 14:42:22 GMT -5
Jack, love ya man, but I think you've lost the spirit of this thread. I don't have anything positive to say about my chosen candidate's opponent, so I won't say anything at all.
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Post by MarkD on Oct 20, 2008 15:35:26 GMT -5
Jen - actually - that's kinda my fault - I started dumping on Palin, which ignited the perverbial negative flame. So, I'll come full circle and say 3 things nice about her: 1. She's an example of Democracy - the people decide if she's qualified and the people of Alaska decided that she is. 2. She's one of the best public speakers that I've seen and can be very motivating. 3. She's HOT !!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Post by Charlie on Oct 20, 2008 16:57:59 GMT -5
She has a sense of humor...
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Post by Jack Carney on Oct 20, 2008 17:10:31 GMT -5
Jack, love ya man, but I think you've lost the spirit of this thread. I don't have anything positive to say about my chosen candidate's opponent, so I won't say anything at all. Agreed. I actually thought long and hard but could not come up with three things. I did think he was funny at the dinner the other night. Especially the crack about his middle name being Steve. |
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Post by sidmcmahon on Oct 20, 2008 18:15:03 GMT -5
Obama really is moderate in my opinion.
1) He is to the right of Lennon
2) He is to the right of Kucinich
3) He really is a good speakerl
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Post by Charlie on Oct 20, 2008 18:59:58 GMT -5
Which Lennon?
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Post by sidmcmahon on Oct 20, 2008 19:26:20 GMT -5
Vladimir
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Post by Brandon on Oct 21, 2008 7:07:57 GMT -5
McCain:
1) served our country very honorably
2) has not made stem cell research, gay unions, and other moral issues that fall (IMO) out of the realm of government part of his platform
3) understands that the U.S. needs new energy policy and the impact that the energy sector can have to create jobs here.
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Post by Aussie Rob on Oct 21, 2008 9:02:22 GMT -5
When i see Americans call the dems ultra liberal i cant help but laugh. This is arguably one of the most conservative first world nations on the planet, and as such, even the "liberals" here are to the right of the liberals in Europe and Australia. The only true liberal that i can think of that gets any air time around here is Dennis; and look at his reputation! He's seen as a joke, and even democrats seem embarrassed of him. I think that says a lot about the social and political makeup of the country. eta - You couldn't think of 3 favourable things to say about the man, Jack? Really? Could you be any more of a stereotypical extremist republican dude?  |
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