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Post by watchman on Mar 15, 2011 21:22:56 GMT -5
My goal race is the Cedar Point full Distance. This will be the first full distance for me. Which is Sept. 11
I am planning a June 5 Marathon since I do not want my first Marathon to be after a 112 mile bike.
I am planning a May 7 Half Marathon as part of preparation for Full Marathon June 5. Is that ( 1 month ) a reasonable time to recover? Is it reasonable to do a Half to " prepare" for a Full?
Then I have a Half I.M. distance Tri. July 17 as " preparation" for the Full I.M. distance Sept. 11.
Is that a reasonable time( 2 months ) to recover?. Is it reasonable to use a Half I.M. to prepare for a Full?
Just wondering. I want to prepare but not overdo it
any thoughts from those who have done these?
sorry if I am overthinking again
mike
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Post by Aussie Rob on Mar 15, 2011 21:56:40 GMT -5
As long as you have the base, then it looks OK to me.
Good luck!
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Post by Eric on Mar 16, 2011 9:54:03 GMT -5
Your schedule looks pretty solid to me. Both of the prep events should probably be done at full distance pacing. That way you are not cooking yourself and truly practicing pacing and nutrition for both fulls.
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Post by watchman on Jun 1, 2011 21:58:29 GMT -5
some flaws in my thinking and plan
I should have read what Eric wrote more closely.
I did the ten miler and Half Marathon all out
Problem; pulled Calf muscle in ten miler so instead of more training I had to back way off to " recover" from it.
Repeated the problem with the Half Marathon. The pulled calf did not happen in the race but 2 days later when I tried a 22 mile run. At mile six. pulled and had to stop. It is just the last few days without pain
The problem is I have lost time preparing for San Diego Marathon this Sunday so it looks like another Half Marathon.
The lesson learned. Races are not good for training if you overdo it and lose training time . Races take longer to recover from so instead of building you ended up trying to recover.
Oh well. It looks like my first Marathon will be after 112 mile bike
mike
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Post by philjolliff on Jun 2, 2011 7:22:48 GMT -5
No big deal Mike - a lot of people do their first marathon after a 112 mile bike. I know a few multiple IM finishers that have never done a standalone marathon. It really is a much different race.
Am I correct in reading your post that you were attempting a 22 mile run 2 DAYS AFTER racing a Half Marathon?!?!?!?!? I'm afraid that you are going to find the absolute hardest part of training for Ironman is making it to the start line healthy - always err on the side of caution with injuries and overtraining.
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Post by debbie on Jun 2, 2011 9:26:47 GMT -5
My first stand alone marathon was only after my first two ironman's. Actually I enjoy the ironman marathons more then a stand alone marathon. But then I find enjoyment out of a 36 hour race.
You have a lot on your plate with all those races and as you discovered racing does take longer to recover if you race them and not use it as a training day. I run into the same thing training for the double ironmans. Recovery can make you lose training time sometimes, its all about timing and balance.
Quality over Quanatee
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Post by watchman on Jun 2, 2011 10:51:11 GMT -5
Yes Phil you are correct about 22 mile run 2 days after Half marathon.
My 18 week marathon schedule had a 10 tempo run Saturday at Marathon Pace then my last
long run on Monday. I know a Half at Half pace was more than the 10 at MP but I felt great so
I went for it. I was fine till around mile 5 I felt a twinge then at around mile six a sharp pain
that I knew was not good. I stopped and used a total strangers phone to have one of my kids pick me up.
I would not have tried it but I did feel really good 2 days after the Half.
Oh well. It is all about learning I am sure.
mike
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